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Uninsured cars to be stopped from refuelling
CCTV cameras at filling stations across the country are to be used to stop uninsured and untaxed vehicles from refuelling, under proposed government plans.
The cameras will work through the current Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) system fitted to most filling station forecourts across the country – a system currently aimed at catching fuel thieves.
Under the new plans, drivers will only be able to begin refuelling once the camera has registered their car’s number plate and cross-referenced it against the insurance and road tax database.
If a number plate returns an error, or is flagged up on the central system as uninsured or untaxed, the driver will be prevented from refuelling the vehicle. Downing Street officials are hoping the technology will help curb the 1.4 million uninsured vehicles on the road.
One in 25 drivers in the UK do not have insurance, and according to recent figures, around 160 people are killed and 23,000 injured by untraceable drivers every year.
Forcing people to tax and insure their vehicles in order to refuel – the only hard factor that would stop cars being driven illegally – will see these numbers drastically reduced, according to the plans.
Government representatives will meet with major fuel companies in the next few weeks to consider the idea. However, initial responses from some fuel retailers are that the new plans are a step too far.
Prohibiting people refuelling, especially those who flout the law, could create more crime, with people potentially turning on fuel station attendants, according to Retail Motor Industry Petrol (the body that represents UK fuel sellers)
RMIF Chairman, Brian Madderson, said: “Staff are already getting stick from motorists for high fuel prices. This proposal will increase the potential for conflict. Our cashiers are not law enforcers.”
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20/03/2012 13:06
There are only 2 reasons for crime, 1 poor education and 2 not enough opportunities to make an honest living. If people can not afford things any more that are seen to be basic necessities they will turn to crime, even the most honest person will turn to crime if you suppress them enough. Its called survival. Buy the way, my car is currently taxed and insured, but who know by next year when my no claims discount of 9 years on a 10 year old car will cost me over £1000 to insure I might just turn to crime myself.
20/03/2012 15:18
So how will this affect the average person with no car but still requires a can of fuel for the lawnmower? & whats to say the fuel put in the can wont end up in a car ? Stupid people in power! wonder what dumb **** come up with this idea ....
20/03/2012 17:37
and big brother gets one step nearer ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20/03/2012 18:07
Well well, an increase on driveway fuel thefts, as well as people being assaulted when they protect their property. The government who want to give a rapist less of a sentence if he pleads guilty are to encourage more criminality. Fecking tories! Most insurance companies don't or won't cover criminal damage to a car and those that will, will charge you the excess to have it repaired.
This is another scam of stealth tax because the costing will be past on to the law abiding motorist, just like the privatising of roads.
We need a revolution in this country because the working classes are being oppressed more and more. I'd like to be the executioner who beheads the tory bastards when it happens!
REVOLUTION REVOLUTION REVOLUTION!
20/03/2012 12:50
sounds like a good idea to me but maybe instead of refusing to sell the fuel to uninsured/untaxed vehicles why not limit the amount they can buy to £10 maximum per transaction, £10 won't last many miles so it would be a massive inconvenience to these drivers if they had to stop to refuel every 5 minutes! also, what's stopping these criminals from cloning any numberplate? ANPR only recognises the numberplate and not the actual car it's on so it would be simple to buy a couple of sets of false plates off ebay and use them each time you need fuel. so like i said, it 'sounds' like a good idea but in reality it's flawed from the start!
20/03/2012 20:34
this stinks of big brother...how much longer will it be until they want cameras in our homes "to make sure we are not doing anything illegal"
20/03/2012 18:10
Fascist Britain strikes again, bring back Hitler you would probably have more freedom !
20/03/2012 16:08
all you need is a friend to get a tankfull for you.
are theses whitehall mandarins all idiots , collect the tax duty at the pumps you fecking idiots
do you know there are some brain dead w.a.n.k.e.r.s in this government
21/03/2012 02:44
I have car insurance that allows me to drive any car, if I were to drive an uninsured car would it stop me from filling up?
Lots of people with comprehensive insurance can also drive any car.
Lots of people with comprehensive insurance can also drive any car.
28/03/2012 13:51
well if i was an uninsured driver (which i am not, i pay my dues through the nose like most other people) i would simply fill up a can, how do you reg check a fuel can ?
if that was not possible, i would just buy a cordless drill and take a can, nip out in the early hours and drill nice decent peoples fuel tanks to get some.
you see i wouldn't care that it would cost them hundreds to sort out the problem afterwards, i would have my gallon, and anyway they could claim on the insurance.
...... AND HEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM...... a lot of uninsured drivers are kids .. they would pay but they cant afford to pay thousands so they skimp and the insurance companies inflate prices to compensate for whiplash claimers and all sorts of EXTRA stuff that people chuck in when the car gets nicked.
so basically if people stopped ripping insurance companies and then by some miracle insurance companies got realistic it may solve the problem of uninsured drivers...
my insurance has over tripled in the last 4 years and all i have done is to drive for another 4 years without accidents or convictions ..... go figure 30 years of no claims and i can only use
7 :)
20/03/2012 17:15
Why do supposedly clever politicians come up with crazy ideas like this instead of the simple way.What we really need is a section of the police force from their area that do nothing else but patrol the roads stopping cars at random and checking for licence insurance etc.The money collected for fines auctioning off cars etc would more than pay for the force.I suppose the DO GOODERS would complain about this being more big brother.
27/05/2012 20:48
If the insurance companies were not legalized thieves then a lot less people would be driving around illegaly. Only when these insurance companies (criminals) are taken out of the picture and the insurance cover is put onto fuel will it ever be any different.
This latest move in the big brother saga will just create another set of problems, most of which will increase crime, number plate switching from the same make of car etc.
Let's not forget that the UK is now downtown gangland where 85% in the age range from 14 up to 35 is a potential wannabee gangster who all think they are above the law, in fact they work according to their own laws, ignoring everything else which is why murder is now becoming an everyday occurrence.
Get real, get sensible, get pc plod earning a proper living instead of sitting like a vulture for countless hours with his ANPR camera to keep the police money machine well stocked and put the duty and insurance on fuel, its the "only" humane way to solve it as its just going to get worse.
This latest move in the big brother saga will just create another set of problems, most of which will increase crime, number plate switching from the same make of car etc.
Let's not forget that the UK is now downtown gangland where 85% in the age range from 14 up to 35 is a potential wannabee gangster who all think they are above the law, in fact they work according to their own laws, ignoring everything else which is why murder is now becoming an everyday occurrence.
Get real, get sensible, get pc plod earning a proper living instead of sitting like a vulture for countless hours with his ANPR camera to keep the police money machine well stocked and put the duty and insurance on fuel, its the "only" humane way to solve it as its just going to get worse.
20/03/2012 18:47
Superb idea, it has nothing to do with fascist britain as one person mentioned it's about doing the right thing. Why should we the law abiding people suffer and pay high insurance to allow someone to drive about without having to pay for theirs.
29/05/2012 20:33
A FAR SIMPLER WAY WOULD BE FOR SOME OF THE TAX THAT PEOPLE PAY WHILE REFUELLING,,TO BE TAKEN TO PAY FOR ROAD FUND AND INSURANCE. THIS WOULD MEAN THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DROVE THEIR CAR MOST WOULD PAY THE MOST, THUS GIVING AN
INCENTIVE TO PEOPLE NOT TO DRIVE,REDUCING THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE ROAD.
12/05/2012 12:52
I have been driving 22 years and have always been legal, but the thought of this new proposal makes me sick and annoyed the government are comming up with new ways of using technology to make the population conform, and self conform at that, with petrol stations becomming a policing force all free of charge to the government and the expense of the petol stations and attendants having to deal with law breakers.
Get more police on the roads and on the street, let them deal with law breakers and when these people are caught make sure the punishment far outways not having car insurance road tax and an mot, as from what i know the fines are much lower then the actual cost to drive your car legally
26/04/2012 12:32
Typical posh boy idea. Only someone called Gideon or Boris with a retinue of servants to do all the routine things in life could even think of such a daft idea.
How will I fill my petrol mower and hedge cutter? If I can use a jerry can, then so can the uninsured chav-scum. So how is it going to work? I have no intention of buying a trailer, so that I can take my mower to the filling station!! Of course the uninsured drivers are the scum of the Earth, but this can't work. Our leaders are so out of touch with the way people who earn less than £1,000,000 a year live it's frightning.
20/03/2012 13:23
The most sensible option here is to combine either fuel prices with tax and insurance whereby the fuel costs will include tax and insurance or to link the number plate onto a system which includes tax and insurance i.e you apply for a number plate inclusive of tax and insurance keeping the same plate for each vehicle in its class. Obviously the DVLA and insurance companies would have to enter into a partnership.
20/03/2012 17:09
God, is this government incapable of thinking through any idea at all? Car jacking, fuel stealing and forecourt staff attacked spring to my mind ........ How about keeping to the promise of not hitting frontline services and putting enough police back on the road!?
20/03/2012 16:56
This is a very dangerous venture , it calls the station staff to be come police even tho they most prob would be assured that they wouldn't have to deal with, first the angry road tax offender and secondly the other people that wait to refuel , this I think would be a new place where road rage would just become out of control.
This some politician that has to much time on their hands looking for an easy way to get revenue .
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