28/02/2012 09:27 | By Chris Phillips, contributor

We attend a speed awareness course



We attend a speed awareness course (© PA)

Someone quipped that it was like being called into the headmaster's study for detention. But this was no laughing matter as we waited outside the hotel conference room waiting to be 'signed in'. This meant producing our driving licences, which ranged from the newer versions with photo IDs to my tatty 20-year-old specimen held together with Sellotape.

The state of licences reflected the age spread of the group - mid 20s to early 70s. Twenty three of us in all, including eight women. But we all had something in common - exceeding the speed limit. Not by a wide enough margin to automatically incur a £60 fine and three points, or worse. Instead, we had the option of attending a Speed Awareness Course. With an attendance fee of £85, it was more costly, but the carrot was that we would be let off the three-points. As one of my fellow wrongdoers pointed out: "It's a no brainer, isn't it."

The rules were strict. Anyone turning up late would forfeit their £85 and apart from 'comfort calls' and a 15 minute tea break, everyone had to stay for the entire four-hour session. We were warned that anyone 'standing in' for the real culprit risked a hefty fine and possibly prison and asked to switch off our mobiles. Not just for the usual reason of call interruptions, though. As Richard, one of our 'tutors', explained: "We have quite a number of well-known people turning up at these sessions. One was a footballer who was not best pleased someone used a video phone and put him on You Tube."

Speeding police officers exposed

Named and shamed

Rules over, we were each asked to name the location where we had been 'caught' and the amount of excess speed. Most were in Hertfordshire - venue for the session was the Comet Hotel in Hatfield - with the odd one or two nabbed further afield. For me, it was in Suffolk while on holiday, where a mobile camera noted that I was doing 35mph in a 30mph limit along the A12.

Trainers were brilliant. I felt really relaxed. Miss H, 23

This exchange of information was a chance to break the ice and for some to volunteer their occupations, ranging from a retired teacher to a psychotherapist. Graham, the other tutor, pointed out that our session looked like being a good deal friendlier than the morning one. "Perhaps it's because of the presence of the ladies this afternoon - an all-male audience is inclined to be more hostile."

Added Richard: "You get some people coming here with a truculent attitude - 'I've been driving for 40 years and there's nothing you can teach me...'. The purpose of these sessions is not to give someone the opportunity to kick off. We're not here to have rows and we're not here to lecture you. We welcome constructive feedback and hopefully you'll leave having learned something."

Next came the debunking of the belief that the main purpose of speed cameras is to generate cash rather than help improve road safety. "Before any camera can be installed, there has to be evidence that its location has been the scene of eight deaths or serious injury," said Richard. "So, in cases of fatality, you might say that each one serves as a metal memorial."

Worst towns for speeding


Speed camera myths debunked
Neither was it necessarily the case that speed cameras were the automatic default in high-risk spots. Graham cited one road near a college with accidents involving students, many from overseas. Looking at the evidence of excess speeding, the local authority calculated that just one camera would generate more than £1m in fines, but instead it decided to 're-engineer' the road with chicanes and humps.

The info on stopping distances was eye-opening Miss B, 23

There were a couple of 'true or false' quizzes, which highlighted our woeful ignorance of The Highway Coded, and an exercise that had us all fooled. It featured a diagram of a main road with several junctions. Estimates of speed restriction ranged from 20mph to 50mph until Richard pointed out that it was derestricted because there was no 'street furniture' - street lamps and restriction signs. That took us further into the subject of signage and helped us to understand the reasoning behind so much apparent 'clutter'.

Recognise this driver habit pointed out by Graham? "Typically, you won't adjust your speed until you're past a restricted sign, but will start to increase your speed well before you see the derestricted one. It's a behavioural pattern - oh, no, I've got to slow down...goody, I can start to increase my speed again."

One inevitable question from the audience: Were there any instances where speeding could be justified - an urgent call to say that a loved one had been seriously injured in an accident, for example? "Yes, I can sympathise with this, it's highly emotional, but anyone in this situation risks harming someone else," said Graham.

23 of the UK's fastest speedi9ng motorists

The gruesome facts

To illustrate his point, there were a couple of gruesome videos and statistics indicating a 1% fatality rate among pedestrians hit at 20mph, compared to 31% at 40mph. Hitting a pedestrian was described as "a bag of skin, bone and tissue, mostly containing water, coming up against a ton and half of metal and plastic - no contest".

And what about driver/passenger injuries? Despite advances in car safety design, force of impact is likely to scramble our brain against the skull, or slam our internal organs against the rib cage. "A lot of dead victims don't look that seriously injured - it's what happens inside that's caused the damage, in many cases a ruptured aorta," said Graham.

Informative, friendly and good group atmosphere. Well worth £85. Mrs O, 40

With the government deciding to retain the current MoT system, it was a timely opportunity for Richard to point out that 97% of accidents were down to driver error. "The MoT helps ensure that vehicles are mechanically sound - but there's no three-year scheme for testing the drivers."

And the lesson we were asked to take home with us? It's summed up in the acronym COAST - concentration, observation, anticipation, space and time.

Judging by the warm reception given to Richard and Graham at the close, it's a lesson most of us will bear in mind. Except for one potential recidivist who was overheard saying: "I was caught because my speed detector was switched off. Next time, I'll make sure it's on."

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What the others thought...
Speed awareness courses are usually run by local authorities and the police. The criteria is that education, as an alternative to prosecution, must be based on a driver's mistake, rather than a reckless or intentional act. In Hertfordshire alone, more than 40,000 motorists have attended courses since 2006. Those who re-offend within three years are not eligible for the course option.

Sample of comments from those who have attended one of these courses:

Very beneficial and I would like to believe that I will take all this into account. Mr C, 53

It was enlightening, enjoyable, interesting and very well conducted. Mr M, 60

I half expected to be 'talked down to' and treated as something of a 'naughty boy', but on the contrary. Mr F, 65


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Re Simon Coulton (comfy 1)

                                                 Empty headed comments like yours show your lame brained attitude to not being able to do exactly as you please, regardless of any one else,  and their safety, The authority should rescind your license and ban you for ever, bet you drive a BMW.,

****.

 

Bob Grimes

02/03/2012 13:03
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Of course speed cameras generate income a very simple example is that in the fens where there are lots of long straight roads that kill teenage boys every weekend racing each other in old bangers, but there are not too many speed cameras the reason is they cannot be concealed therefore cannot generate cash.  The point is that the concealment itself gurantees money, whereas an exposed camera will save lives but won't generate income.  The mobile units especially conceal themselves all the time, slip roads leading to a dual carriageway with a works unit digging up the road, brow of hilll, around hidden bends, under trees,  agricultural access roads hidden by bushes etc. etc.  Also ask yourselves this how often have you spotted a camera late and hit the brakes anyway regardless of whether or not a person was close behind?  I've even spotted police in Norfolk with speed cameras in the fog which is totally irresponsible if our normal reaction to them is to put the brakes on, which it is.  FACT, CAMERAS THAT ARE VISIBLE AND GIVE CLEAR WARNING OF THEIR PRESENCE SAVE LIVES, THIS I AGREE WITH, THOSE THAT DO NOT ANNOUNCE THEIR PRESENCE (MODERN DAY LEGALISED DICK TURPINS) DO NOT BUT THEY DO GENERATE LOTS & LOTS OF MONEY, ONE GOOD WELL PLACED CAMERA CAN GENERATE MUCH MORE THAN A MACDONALD'S FRANCHISE FOR EXAMPLE.  THE GOVERNMENT WILL ALWAYS USE THE EMMOTIVE ARGUMENT FOR THEIR INSTALLATION 'BUT THEY SAVE LIVES' AND QUOTE STATISTICS, BUT ALSO REMEMBER THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS MADE MILLIONS OF ORDINARY DECENT LAW ABIDING PEOPLE CRIMINALS TOO AND THESE STATISTICS ARE ALSO FAR MORE USEFUL TO THEM WHEN QUOTING A REDUCTION IN SOLVED CRIMES, WHEN THE REALITY IS THAT SERIOUS CRIME AND NOT SOLVING  IT HAS INCREASED CONSIDERABLY.  THESE SOFT USELFUL CRIMINALS CAUGHT SPEEDING, YOU KNOW THE TYPE THE LITTLE OLD GRANNY DOING 35 IN A 30 MPH ZONE BEAR VERY LITTLE IF NO RISK TO THE POLICE.  IT ALSO KEEPS THOSE H&S KNOBS (INSURANCE COMPANIES)  HAPPY TOO WHEN FILLING OUT ENDLESS IDIOTIC RISK ASSESSMENTS FORMS.   ME THINKS THERE'S MORE DANGER FROM PAPER CUTS!!!!
02/03/2012 16:06
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I've been driving since 1977 and am licensed for motorcycles, PSVs and HGVs. I was caught driving at 37mph in a 30 zone. We all do it, I don't care what anyone says, but when I received the notice offering the course or fine and points, I was livid! "

How dare they? I've had my full license for 34 years, what do they know? It was probably some sprog who's only just passed his test sitting in the van anyway!"

Curse and rant all you like, you are guilty - end of story. You been given options so as Mr Gallagher chants,'You've gotta roll with it' and take the least painful route which suits you. Personally, I didn't want points on a previously untainted license so I paid the £85 and duly attended the course.

What a surprise! Upon arrival at a conference suite in a local holiday park, we were greeted by a lady who could only be described as 'senior' in years and who, we later discovered,  still teaches police officers how to drive. There were twenty or so of us there, approximately 50-50 men to women and every one of us had the facial expression of a criminal sat in the dock for sentencing!

The Tutor ran through the timetable with us and informed us that by the end of the session, we would walk from the conference room feeling 'empowered'.

I was cynical, to say the least, but lo and behold, four hours and tea and biscuits later, I was walking to my car having received what can only be described as an 'education'!

I have attended hours and hours of lecturers in my life both from a student and teacher perspective and I can say that, in all honesty, this session was one of the most beneficial classes that I have ever attended.

I did feel 'empowered', I felt relieved that I had no penalty points and I still feel that possibly HM Government should look at making these sessions mandatory for drivers say every ten years. If it saves one life by educating all of us speeders, then it has worked.

02/03/2012 13:43
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I was recently fined £60 and given 3 points due to rushing to my speed awareness course... bit ironic that!
02/03/2012 12:20
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I attending one of these courses after going through a 50 limit on a dual carriageway in the early morning at 61mph with no other traffic about. An "Offence " that a traffic cop would ignore.

The course was run by the AA so the start of the course was telling us why we should all be in the AA club and that we should insist our children only use AA driving instructors, Now that's not biased is it!

It then went on to show slides of roads and we were asked to point out the 5 hazards. Myself and a couple of others are also motorcyclists so we actually pointed out the 7 hazards and made the tutor, with 40 years experience and can't be taught anything ponder a while.

The cost of the course is more expensive than a fine but saves you having 3 points. I would like to know why a course tha costs £90 is in the governments opinion to be equal to 3 points. £30 a point yet 12 points you stand to loose your career, wife, family and house. I'm not advocating the course should be more expensive just pointing out the facts which are laughable if only not so serious

02/03/2012 16:32
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I think the course is a good idea (Haven't been on way luckily) but I do agree with other comments about locations after 8 deaths etc - We have one where I live where I know there's been no fatalities and it point's into the area when you should be reducing anyway

 

However coming up the other way as you approach a split junction, 2 Pubs and a pedestrain crossing, nothing - That makes no sense as this is where the incidents are most likely to occur and people are increasing their speed

 

They want to teach people how to drive round roundabouts as well - Not just take the shortest lane and then cut across

02/03/2012 07:41
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People forget that the car goes fast easily but it is stopping when things go wrong
02/03/2012 02:33
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I try not too speed even on motorway but when your going 70 and get in the fast lane to overtake an old ganny going 30 in the slow lane and then get a speed demon up your butt going 100+ what can you do but go faster to get away from them? I would like to be a cop for a day I would fill my book on my trip too and from work...they say dont undertake because its dangerous but I see it every week...speeddemons dont care as long as there infront of you...SLOW your speed or get off my road....
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Cameras do not necessarily have to be sited AT the accident spot  -  just within 1 mile...... that's quite a catchment area in which to find a more lucrative site.....

On a positive note - many police authorities offer Bike Safe  -  an additional safety course for bikers (voluntary)  -  these are totally excellent! Thoroughly enjoyed the one I did and got a lot with it. It also offers discounts with some insurance companies. The sort of thing that, ideally, should also be offered to car drivers.
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2 things to consider : the new motorcycle test restricts the power of a motorcycle you can ride after passing your test - something like 12.5hp on L plates, 33hp when you've passed your test, deristricted after 2 years of riding 33hp. It should be the same for cars - a stepped progression unless you pay for the extra tuition (Direct Access in the motorcycle world).

Secondly - these speed awareness courses  -  just have a look at who is on the board of directors of the 'private' companies that run then.......and then tell me it's not about propriety.... 

The motorist is, was, and always will be an easy and too tempting a target for governments to raise money from.
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Yes I've done this course too.  Excellent and thought provoking.  The COAST acronym has made a significant difference to my driving.
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I have been driving for 36 years and have been on a speed awareness course within the last

3 years. I had been camera trapped doing 34mph in a 30mph speed limit. on the highway in

the east end of London. When I received the notification I felt as if I was being persecuted and

being used as a cash cow. However because I had been only a few miles over the limit the boys

in blue gave me the opportunity to take the awareness course.(  Aren't our policemen wonderful)

I paid my £90-00 and went on the course in  the city. It was a very good course and I learned

quite a few things or possibly was reminded of what I had forgotten. In all well worth it.

Many people out there feel affronted having to attend but none of us are so good that we don't

need a reminder about our driving abilities. It saves you 3 points . 

02/03/2012 13:52
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i attended this course and though i could have cried at the cost i think it was very insightful.
02/03/2012 11:40
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I feel that I must comment on the 'debunking of the belief that the main purpose of speed cameras is to generate cash rather than help improve road safety'

 

The very fact that people get caught speeding is proof that (if the main purpose is to stop speeding) the system has at best limited success. Most of us would change a system if it didn't work. If the real intent was to stop speeding then the answer is simple. Make the penalty so severe (say a years ban) that people would not speed.  Ok that wouldn't swell the Government coffers by, does anyone know how much is collected in speeding fines a year?, but it would stop speeding. Why isn't that system introduced. I think the answer is pretty obvious

02/03/2012 12:12
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I chose to do this course instead of taking the points and found it a fantastic refresher!

I was apparently at the last session where they stopped the practical side, which to me was the best bit.

The classroom time was very interesting and then we spent time with a driving instructor who advised us how we were doing and encouraged us to use the information we had just been reminded/ in some cases taught in the classroom.

Personally I believe that this course should be mandatory and simular fresher courses should also be every few years for all drivers. This could only ever have a positive impact on our roads and insurance premiums.

02/03/2012 16:11
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I recently completed one of these courses and found it very well presented but to me the most telling moment was when they asked the question "What is the speed limit on unrestricted single carriageways"  an astounding 58% got it wrong  saying it is 50 MPH when it is in fact 60 MPH.
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Of course all this presumes that speeding is always negative but it's not. Police only use what I call measurables and speed is one of them. They also use statistics which when tested are usually dubious in their numbers. That said, I am not anti-Police (only that they should be used properly) and that speed should be credited with saving lives, probably more than in it endangers. I have no doubt that Police drivers have much experience and that it should be shared and I agree prevention is better than cure however I would advocate an increase in speed where sensible (i.e. motorways) If infrastructure is poor then it should be made good. The internet has conduits and no one says slow that down, they require more speed and so do our roads, not in silly places but where it can relatively safely be achieved. All things have a risk factor but all things also have a positive, it's a question of getting the balance right without politicians using it as revenue collection to fund their nearly useless life styles.
02/03/2012 11:39
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the speed awareness course I had to attend was an all dayer from 5am till 5 pm with 1/2 hour dinner break.I came away a lot better for it as it put speeding into perspective,and that it is not needed at all.I HAVE REDUCED MY SPEED ON ALL ROADS SINCE THEN SO IN MY OPINION IT HAS DONE SOME GOOD
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I think now Annette unless you Dad won the Lotto you would never be able to insure a fast car for a teen , One of my friends wanted to buy a Honda  for his teen daughter the cost of the car was £500 the cost to insure her ( as a named driver on his insurance was close to £3000  !! )
 Best wishes

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I agree that new drivers should be limited in the power of the cars they drive for a decent length of time after they pass their driving test and parents should have more sense than allow their probably teenage children to drive powerful cars. Folk should realise that the speed limit is really only a guide how fast you should go - you have to take lots more things into consideration i.e. weather, road condition, is it a busy road, is it in a residential area. In my area the Council have put up signs and painted  20mph on the road - problem is cars can't read and drivers dont. Speed bumps are the only things that slow drivers down but as we haven't had any accidents in our area they are not considered.

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We attend a speed awareness courseChris Phillipscontributor2012-02-28T09:27:19Someone quipped that it was like being called into the headmaster's study for detention. But this was no laughing matter as we waited outside the hotel conference room waiting to be 'signed in'. This meant producing our driving licences, which ranged from the newer versions with photo IDs to my tatty 20-year-old specimen held together with Sellotape.The state of licences reflected the age spread of the group - mid 20s to early 70s. Twenty three of us in all, including eight women. But we all had something in common - exceeding the speed limit. Not by a wide enough margin to automatically incur a £60 fine and three points, or worse. Instead, we had the option of attending a Speed Awareness Course. With an attendance fee of £85, it was more costly, but the carrot was that we would be let off the three-points. As one of my fellow wrongdoers pointed out: "It's a no brainer, isn't it." The rules were strict. Anyone turning up late would forfeit their £85 and apart from 'comfort calls' and a 15 minute tea break, everyone had to stay for the entire four-hour session. We were warned that anyone 'standing in' for the real culprit risked a hefty fine and possibly prison and asked to switch off our mobiles. Not just for the usual reason of call interruptions, though. As Richard, one of our 'tutors', explained: "We have quite a number of well-known people turning up at these sessions. One was a footballer who was not best pleased someone used a video phone and put him on You Tube."Speeding police officers exposedNamed and shamedRules over, we were each asked to name the location where we had been 'caught' and the amount of excess speed. Most were in Hertfordshire - venue for the session was the Comet Hotel in Hatfield - with the odd one or two nabbed further afield. For me, it was in Suffolk while on holiday, where a mobile camera noted that I was doing 35mph in a 30mph limit along the A12.Trainers were brilliant. I felt really relaxed. Miss H, 23This exchange of information was a chance to break the ice and for some to volunteer their occupations, ranging from a retired teacher to a psychotherapist. Graham, the other tutor, pointed out that our session looked like being a good deal friendlier than the morning one. "Perhaps it's because of the presence of the ladies this afternoon - an all-male audience is inclined to be more hostile."Added Richard: "You get some people coming here with a truculent attitude - 'I've been driving for 40 years and there's nothing you can teach me...'. The purpose of these sessions is not to give someone the opportunity to kick off. We're not here to have rows and we're not here to lecture you. We welcome constructive feedback and hopefully you'll leave having learned something."Next came the debunking of the belief that the main purpose of speed cameras is to generate cash rather than help improve road safety. "Before any camera can be installed, there has to be evidence that its location has been the scene of eight deaths or serious injury," said Richard. "So, in cases of fatality, you might say that each one serves as a metal memorial."Worst towns for speedingSpeed camera myths debunkedNeither was it necessarily the case that speed cameras were the automatic default in high-risk spots. Graham cited one road near a college with accidents involving students, many from overseas. Looking at the evidence of excess speeding, the local authority calculated that just one camera would generate more than £1m in fines, but instead it decided to 're-engineer' the road with chicanes and humps.The info on stopping distances was eye-opening Miss B, 23There were a couple of 'true or false' quizzes, which highlighted our woeful ignorance of The Highway Coded, and an exercise that had us all fooled. It featured a diagram of a main road with several junctions. Estimates of speed restriction ranged from 20mph to 50mph until Richard pointed out that it was derestricted because there was no 'street furniture' - street lamps and restriction signs. That took us further into the subject of signage and helped us to understand the reasoning behind so much apparent 'clutter'.Recognise this driver habit pointed out by Graham? "Typically, you won't adjust your speed until you're past a restricted sign, but will start to increase your speed well before you see the derestricted one. It's a behavioural pattern - oh, no, I've got to slow down...goody, I can start to increase my speed again."One inevitable question from the audience: Were there any instances where speeding could be justified - an urgent call to say that a loved one had been seriously injured in an accident, for example? "Yes, I can sympathise with this, it's highly emotional, but anyone in this situation risks harming someone else," said Graham.23 of the UK's fastest speedi9ng motoristsThe gruesome factsTo illustrate his point, there were a couple of gruesome videos and statistics indicating a 1% fatality rate among pedestrians hit at 20mph, compared to 31% at 40mph. Hitting a pedestrian was described as "a bag of skin, bone and tissue, mostly containing water, coming up against a ton and half of metal and plastic - no contest". And what about driver/passenger injuries? Despite advances in car safety design, force of impact is likely to scramble our brain against the skull, or slam our internal organs against the rib cage. "A lot of dead victims don't look that seriously injured - it's what happens inside that's caused the damage, in many cases a ruptured aorta," said Graham.Informative, friendly and good group atmosphere. Well worth £85. Mrs O, 40With the government deciding to retain the current MoT system, it was a timely opportunity for Richard to point out that 97% of accidents were down to driver error. "The MoT helps ensure that vehicles are mechanically sound - but there's no three-year scheme for testing the drivers." And the lesson we were asked to take home with us? It's summed up in the acronym COAST - concentration, observation, anticipation, space and time.Judging by the warm reception given to Richard and Graham at the close, it's a lesson most of us will bear in mind. 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