21/06/2012 10:57 | By Chris Rees, contributor, MSN Cars

The speed issue



We examine the debate around speeding and speed limits (© PA)

Ever since those 19th century pioneer drivers were forced have a man walking in front of them carrying a red flag, speed on the roads has always been a big issue.

Things eventually relaxed in the UK, of course, and it wasn't until 1967 that speed limits were introduced on the motorway. Now, the issue of speed is once again highly topical, since the government is consulting on raising the motorway speed limit from 70mph to 80mph, a change that could happen as early as 2013. If the UK government goes ahead, it could echo the US state of Texas, which is tipped to introduce an 85mph speed limit on one of its toll highways.

Socialvoices: all cars should be limited to 80mph

Of course, it's highly unlikely that we'll ever follow Germany and scrap motorway speed limits altogether - although the Isle of Man has unrestricted speeds on its out-of-town roads - but with The Speed Issue very much in the spotlight, we thought we'd ask some speed-related questions.

Why can modern cars achieve speeds so far in excess of the speed limit and how do manufacturers justify it?
Motorway speed limits vary widely across the world, from just 62mph in Japan, 70mph in the UK, 81mph in France and Italy up to no limits at all on German autobahns.

City cars don't behave like larger cars on motorways

What top speed a car can do is usually frankly irrelevant where there's a speed limit in place. Even basic city cars are capable of topping 100mph these days, which is way over the national speed limit. But city cars don't behave like larger cars on motorways: at 70mph, their engines can be spinning at 4,000rpm - which gets pretty uncomfortable for passengers and is pretty inefficient on fuel. Compare that to, for example, a current Corvette, which has a top speed of 190mph, yet at 70mph is barely ticking over at 1,500rpm. Lower revs at motorway speeds mean better fuel economy and a more relaxed drive.

Why it's time to raise the motorway speed limit

What would the advantages/disadvantages be of limiting all cars to 70mph?

Electronic speed limiting is very easy to do. Indeed, many new cars already have a speed limiter that can be set by the driver to warn them when they exceed a certain speed limit. Many sat-nav systems can also identify what the speed limit is and warn the driver about it, so it would be easy to limit cars to 70mph in the future.

In fact, there's already a case of one country where all cars are speed-restricted by law: in Japan, they're all electronically limited to 140kmh (87mph).

Forced limit means cars would brake less

There's an argument that a forced 70mph limit would make traffic flow better, as the differences in speed on motorways would be less, so cars would brake less. That would likely lead to lower accident rates - even though motorways are already statistically the safest roads to drive on. Also a lot less fuel would be used: the IAM estimates that sticking to 70mph rather than 80mph saves around 4p per mile for a typical car.

And the disadvantages? Journey times would be longer for many drivers, which would have an impact on the national economy, and many people who drive for a living could end up working very long days.

There's also the situation where the safest way to avoid an accident is actually to accelerate out of danger. And doing 75 or 80mph for a short time to overtake a slow car may actually be safer than sticking to 70. Hitting a 'barrier' at 70mph when accelerating in real-world scenarios could compromise road safety.

And what about if you had an emergency, and needed to get a loved one to hospital in a hurry? How would you feel with a life in your hands if your speed were restricted to 70mph on a clear, open motorway?

Celebrity speeders exposed

How would insurance companies look upon drivers who voluntarily limit the speed of their cars?

Some insurance companies already offer the option of putting a 'black box' recorder in your car. Using GPS technology, this records all sorts of information including, speed, distance travelled, time of day the car was driven, location and braking data. The reason to have this black box fitted is simple: it can reduce insurance premiums. This applies especially to younger drivers, but equally to anyone who can build a picture of safer driving - particularly female drivers who are seeing their historically lower premiums than men rise in the wake of sex equality rulings. Many insurance companies charge lower rates if a driver can show they are following speed limits regularly.

Speeding police officers exposed

Is technology to limit the speed of cars likely to be forced on us in the future?

All the necessary technology is already in place for speed controls to be fitted to cars, should such a scheme become mandatory. Indeed, a trial has already taken place in Australia, where GPS devices were fitted to 100 cars, warning their drivers when they went too fast; if they persisted in exceeding the speed limit, the device then limited the supply of fuel to the engine, forcing the car to lose speed.

Will these GPS speed limiters ever become reality, though? Isn't it all a bit too 'Big Brother'? Ultimately it's up to our elected government to decide, and we know that governments have been looking at this issue for some time. Our best guess is that, for now at least, there seems little prospect of it happening in the near future.

22 of the UK's fastest-speeding motorists

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21/06/2012 14:06
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There are obviously pro's and con's on both sides of the argument, but what you have to consider is that on every motorway in the UK, the actual average cruising speed is already 80 mph and sometimes a bit higher. There are no massive car crashes and the hard shoulders are not littered with smashed cars or bodies. Yes we do have multiple crashes, however, these are generally attributed to other causes than speed. I have driven many thousands of mile in Germany  and most of the Autobahns do have speed limits in place, generally around 80 mph,but on those where there is no limit, the actual number of crashes is significantly lower than on those that have a speed limit so higher speed in itself is not the issue. What is, is the standard of driving and the volume of traffic on roads. We could never have unlimited speed on motorways in this country simply because of the volume of traffic but people tend to find a natural speed that goes with the flow and as stated above this is around 80 mph so the proposed limit is spot on. Yes you do use more fuel if you go faster, but you also get somewhere faster and of course, you dont have to drive at 80 mph.
People will quote increased risks and accidents, but the fact is a car weighing from a ton upwards travelling at 60 mph has the same potential to kill as one travelling at 80 mph so if you are really interested in safely, ban cars altogether. As to speed limiters and GPS systems, well they can all be over come and manipulated so what is the point?....People also say that if you raise the limit to 80, people will do 90, well if you drive along the M3 in the mornings around the Basingstoke area you will find people already doing a little bit more than that and again, there are no smashed cars on the hard shoulder or bodies littering the road. So you have to draw your own conclusions.
 
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Luckily I have a Ford Capri 2.0S with a twin carb so there's no way of electronically limiting my speed! hahaha
21/06/2012 15:31
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Cars are generally more capable of speed than the drivers.  This is the only reason for any need to limit speed on the roads.
60 Mph is one mile per minute 80 is one and a third miles in minute
Checking rear view mirror, or gauges around 1/4 to 1/2 second, possibly more.
Assuming all is perfect and you check fast you miss 22 feet or almost 7 metres of road having a 1/4 second look, twice that in 1/2 at 60 mph.
At 80 taking a half second to check dials or rear view means you have missed close to 60 feet of the road ahead or 44 metres.
Consider that in calculations at 80mph they give 24 metres of thinking distance and 96 to stop, if you are observing to 120 metre gap, over a third of that is gone to do essential safety checks.
I still maintain speed is not the biggest killer, and there are many test cases to bear this out.  The biggest killers are lack of attention and driving too close, the higher the speed this is done at the more likely of a major accident and serious injury or death.
I don't think there are enough drivers out there who appreciate how dangerous their activity is to increase the speed limits.  The only way I think it would be safe is if the driver was taken out of the equation.  The tech is out there, and yes there would be flaws, but nowhere near as many as there are with the current control system, human beings.

06/01/2013 16:57
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Work out the seconds per mile (and additional 4p per mile costs). 70mph is 51 seconds, 80 is 45, 90 is 40. The savings are less than that because higher speeds cannot always be maintained. If doing less than 100 miles continuously, you will more than waste the time saved in the slow bits either end. There is never an argument for speeding on the way to a hospital for ANY reason. Such desire is purely emotional.

W/o exceeding 60mph I can beat anyone from A to B on virtually all journeys and definately if motorway is no more than 1/2.

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