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Subaru and Toyota have collaborated on a new sports car. Toyota has already teased the FT-86 production car, producing several concept cars that were very close to the street model. Subaru, on the other hand, was very secretive about the sister model, and has only just recently released a teaser photo of the concept. However, from what we can deduce from spy photographs, the two cars will only differ in detail, the overall silhouette being exactly the same. Surprisingly though, the Subaru will be priced higher, offering a more powerful engine and a better equipped cabin. Both cars are expected to be seen for the first time at the Tokyo Motor Show in December.

Toyota FT-86 at the Frankfurt Motor Show

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20/11/2011 15:22
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Howard, the 70mph limit was brought in long before the oil crisis.

 

The oil crisis saw speed limits cut to 50 mph. At the time, I was a long distance driver, and the cut to 50 mph was so catastrophic, it was quickly reversed.

 

The accident rate became hair raising, with the motorways for example being designed to be driven at 120 mph and higher (they are very enjoyable roads at those speeds, and they keep you awake because they are interesting to drive at those speeds), people were falling asleep at the wheel, all over the place.

 

I lost count of the number of cab fire extinguishers that I got through (I even got some earache from a transport manager, who seemed unaware that I was using them for the purpose they were supplied for).

 

It was so nerve wracking (you knew something with your number on it, was in the immediate future), I gave up the job and found something different, before the 70 mph limit was restored.

20/11/2011 22:11
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I love the FORD CAPRI,can I have one
20/11/2011 14:38
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Toby so much wrong with your post I don't know where to start.  Slow doesn't necessarily mean safe, consult police and road safety websites and you'll find they agree. You obviously aren't much of a driver or you'd know the current 70 MPH speed limit (brought in during an oil crisis to save fuel) is under review with the option of a new 80 MPH limit being proposed.
Also it's not all about speed it's about acceleration, which can get you out of as much trouble that it can get you in to.
In short, do your home work.

21/11/2011 06:45
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Congrats to Ford and Jaguar, I hope these brands will make a success story with these New Products

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Poor comments on these by one particularly ill informed person. Ford doesn't own jaguar anymore is one instance - sunshine. Must be all of fifteen!
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@Howard Smith.

I am afraid you have got it wrong. In 1965 a 70mph speed limit was brought into force, on motorways and dual carriageways to try to end the serious accidents caused by motorists driving in fog and adverse weather conditions, in most cases driving way too fast for their capabilities. In 1973 a 50mph speed limit was introduced to alleviate the oil crisis at that time. The standard of driving in the UK is pretty bad, an increase to 80mph would only encourage the Clarkson followers to speed even more. Power is nothing without control.

20/11/2011 12:02
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Is it me or does the McLaren P13 look like the last Toyota Celica.
11/12/2011 16:40
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@Ronnie.......The proposed increase to 80mph will only actually increase average speeds to 72mph accross the motorway network. Also, it has been taken in to consideration that the highway code stopping distances are so out of date that modern cars can pull up in half the designated distance, thus enabling them to slow down quicker from an 80mph motorway speed.   Not that any of this will affect me, as there are no motorways in Lincolnshire!
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Howard Smith, It is clearly YOU who needs to do your homework. The 70mph speed limit on UK motorways has been in place since 1965, a mere 6 years after the first motorway was opened and at a time when motorways were very few and far between. If you are going to make comments on things you clearly know nothing about, try doing a little research first. The hard facts are that no matter what the motorway speed limits are in the UK, there will still be literally millions of "drivers" who think they are competent to drive on them, sadly, a British disease. Remember, there is no such thing as dangerous roads, the only thing that is dangerous, are the clueless morons who drive on them. 
27/02/2013 13:50
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The "oil crisis and other bizarre rationals for the 70mph motorway speed limit!  The fact is that the 70 mph speed limit was introduced due to the AC Cobra going faster than a train at 150mph and the good MP'S made the enforcable speed limit of 70mph on them ever since! 

 

People believ speed is the danger on the mptorway when it is the idiots who drive at times slower than a Artic or sit in the middle lane and even the outside lane when the highway code states that both these lanes are for "OVERTAKING"!  How do some car drivers think that overtaking a lorry at 56+ is safe?  DOH the lorry driver can not see you for the majority of your 5minute overtaking/remaining in the middle lane.  What do you think happens when the Artic driver indicates to change lane thinks no one is there and pulls out as he has not seen anycar in his mirrors for the last 3minutes! The car driver has 3 choices (1) swerves in to trafic in the fast lane? (2) emergency brakes? (3) their car is a pancake?  The car driver will blame the Artic driver for pulling out as it was not their fault they drive at dual carrige way speeds on a motorway!  The car driver will blane the other traffic for driving to fast on the motorway!  All the options lead to one thing a mess for the emergency services to deal with and the unfortunate drivers using the motorway correctly living with the fact they may have "KILLED" at worst the idiot driver not the other innocents involved!  If you want to drive below 70 and your not an artic/trailer then use the "A and B roads"!  The "HIGHWAY CODE STATES" the motorway speed limit is 70 for cars travelling in the inside lane (this is normally the 2nd lane as the 1st lane is normally an "EMERGENCY LANE NOT PICNIC AREA" this leaves on your "RIGHT SHOULDER 2 LANES A MIDDLE AND OUTSIDE LANE" both of these lanes are for "OVERTAKING ONLY"!  The "HIGHWAY CODE STATES" you can "ACCELERATE TO OVERTAKE A SLOWING MOVING VEHICLE" and then move back in to the "INSIDE LANE"!  All "DRIVING INSTRUCTORS" tell their students to match their speed of the traffic!  If these so called drivers travelled at the motorway speed limit of "70MPH AND DROVE USING THE CORRECT INSIDE LANE" there would be less emergency braking and emergency lane changing resulting in  fewer accidents!   My theory is the "IDIOTS " who stay in the middle lane is due to their lack of driving ability "FRIGHTENED TO MOVE LANE AS THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF USING THEIR MIRROS/EYES/INDICATORS"!  "IF YOU ARE FRIGHTENED ABOUT DRIVING ON MOTORWAYS AND CAN NOT DRIVE CORRECTLY ON THEM STAY AWAY OR SOME DAY YOU WILL CAUSE AN ACCIDENT WHERE SOME ONE ELSE WILL OSE THEIR LIFE/LIVES!

 

On Motorways if you are not driving at the required speed limit for your vehicle then unless you have a valied reason (space saver wheel due to "emergency on the motorway" pull off next junction and use A and B roads), you should be "FINED AND GIVEN PENALTY POINTS"!  Some people may think this can not be enforced I say yes it can "THERE ARE A AND B ROADS THESE HAVE SPEED LIMITS UP TO 70MPH ON SOME BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC WILL BE DRIVING AT 40-60MPH LESS ARTICS AND LESS RISK OF MULTIPLE DEATHS"!

 

"QUESTION ARE THESE THE VERY SAME DRIVERS WHO WHEN THEY HEAR AN EMERGENCY SERVICE SIREN STAY WHERE THEY ARE BLOCKING THE EMERGENCY SERVICES EXIT AND SO SLOWING THEM DOWN WHERE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE ATTENDING A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION WHICH COULD WELL BE SOMEONE THEY KNOW!  2THESE DRIVERS SHOULD BE NOT DRIVING AS THEY DO NOT KNOW THE BASIC HIGHWAY CODE OF ALLOWING EMERGENCY SERVICES TO PASS"!  THIS MEANS PUT YOUR CAR UP THE KERB, DRIVE OUT IN TO A JUNCTION EVEN IF THE LIGHTS ARE ON RED TO ALLOW THEM THROUGH, JUST GET OUT OF THE WAY! 

 

"REMEMBER ONE DAY YOU MAY NEED THESE SERVICES WITHIN 3 MINUTES AND SOME IDIOTS WILL HOLD THEM!    

 

Am I the only person with my expressed opinion?

29/05/2013 12:21
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One suspects that one may have an internet stalker. Ooohhhh... how exciting, how very personal and specific. Irrespective of whatever comment one posts relative to whatever story/article one may comment upon it is almost immediately, though not exclusively, afforded a thumbs down as evinced on this motoring link. Some witless soul, a deluded individual, a lonesome specimen, is fooling themselves that this may be, perhaps, injurious in some way to the author. Oh, far from it; it is expected, anticipated, rationalised and predictable. One will not comment upon this further, however, one would seek to encourage those who may be sensitive to such disapproval; one should not care overly much about what anyone else might think. One is not forced or coerced to comment, one is simply presented with an opportunity to comment. One can, within reason, express whatever opinion one wishes. If one is seeking approbation in these arenas then one may be considered to be either naïve, at best, or foolish, at worst.

 

If one is seeking debate then one joins or sponsors the debate on the general understanding that 

there will be an exchange of views and/or opinions, sometimes a very frank exchange of views and/or opinions, not merely to be given an opportunity to insult, defame and/or bully or be so harangued. Sadly MSN have a very poor record in this regard; no moderators to sort the wheat from the chaff; the conscionable from the unconscionable.

20/11/2011 20:20
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Actually Gareth, I would say the Mc Claren P13 looks like a Hyundai coupe.
20/11/2011 10:23
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the new capri is not bad but i still think the old capri is better
20/11/2011 19:29
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please let me test drive them all and maybe throw in a audi r8 spider ;-)
21/11/2011 01:04
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the mclaren p13 is the double of a hyundai coupe right enough booooo !
20/11/2011 14:03
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Why on earth all these fast and sporty cars? With current concerns over road safety wouldn't it be better to produce slower and more practical vehicles?   These vehicles and their owners will look silly driving at the proposed 20 mph (in towns) speed limit. And at the end of the day you can still only drive at 70 mph on our motorways (when traffic conditions allow). Perhaps we should be looking more at multi passenger vehicles to reduce congestion as lets face it, no matter how much you throw at our public transport systems, they could never cope with everyone leaving their cars at home as the government would like us to do.  Personally, I think car manufacturers have got it all wrong!
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